Why are there no honest dentists?

[ACIM Files]

I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.

He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

[Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.]

They do not let honest ones into dental school ,,,, why do you ask?


On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

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*********

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or any other official agency either
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Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

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[federicovella]

prova prova

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
They do not let honest ones into dental school ,,,, why do you ask?
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[federicovella]

prova

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
They do not let honest ones into dental school ,,,, why do you ask?
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.]

That is where my deli gets their smoked salmon .......

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.)

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:

*********

Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.

REPLY:

I assume your mother has more money than you. Can you borrow some?

Post by ACIM Files
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:

*********

Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.]

Crooked as hell .......

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:

*********

Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[NOYB]

I'm confused. I was always told it's "*straight* to hell". Now you're
telling me it's crooked as hell.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
Crooked as hell .......

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.]

Good one!

Hell, hell, hell ......... war (and dentistry) are hell.


Joel

Post by NOYB
I'm confused. I was always told it's "*straight* to hell". Now you're
telling me it's crooked as hell.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
Crooked as hell .......

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 20:58:04 GMT, "ACIM Files"
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was

leaking,

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did

anything

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one

x-ray

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing

around

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent

$5000

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is

the

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.

Post by Joel M. Eichen D.D.S.
dental industry crooked as hell?

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA
*********
Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.
Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.
STANDARD DISCLAIMER

--
Joel M. Eichen, .
Philadelphia PA

DISCLAIMER FOLLOWS:

*********

Dental health-related material
is provided for information purposes
only and does not necessarily
represent endorsement by or an official
position of the SciMedDentistry gang
or any other official agency either
actual or fictitious or Steve Mancuso.

Advice on the treatment or care
of an individual patient should
be obtained through consultation
with a dentist who has examined
that patient or is familiar with
that patient's dental history.

STANDARD DISCLAIMER

[Brian]

Post by ACIM Files
I have a molar that has become infected. It has a crown on it. Six months
ago I went to a teaching school (Nova U.) and they told me it was leaking,
but it could be fixed without putting on a new crown. I never did anything
about it until last week when it became painful. The dentist took one x-ray
and told me I needed a post, a root canal and a new crown all costing around
$2000. When I asked him to just extract it and I'll eventually get an
implant he tried hard to get me to do the crown work and when I refused
(don't have 2k) he referred me to another dentist for extraction, even
though he offered to pull ALL of my mother's top teeth.
He gave me antibiotics (penicillin VK) and the pain has gone away
completely. Can the leak in the crown be fixed? I feel he like all the
others I've seen is taking me for a ride. My fiance' and I have been to 4
dentists in 2 years and every one says something different but the scare
tactics are the same. One dentist says the other one's wrong. I spent $5000
a year and a half ago and now I'm being asked to spend more on the same
tooth. Are we just having bad luck, are we doing something wrong, or is the
dental industry crooked as hell?

Well since you asked so nicely.
Once you have an infection like that, antibiotics may help temporarily
but will normally reoccur. Once you have pain and/or infection, a root
canal or extraction are the only procedures that will help?
Was this work done 18 months ago? If so you might want to discuss a
leaking crown with the dentist who did the work.
If it was done a while ago, have you considered that you might be
responsible for any decay present?
Have you considered that your extraction and those of your mother
might have different degrees of difficulty and that the dentist might
feel comfortable with your mother's but felt that you might be better
off being seen by a specialist?
It must be very difficult living life with an attitude like yours.
Describe the "scare tactics."